Re: _Die Schere_, EJ and Technical Development

[Bertil Haggman <bertil.haggman@helsingborg.se>]

christopher brown wrote:

Adalbarr,

Thanks for your interesting answer to
my postings on this subject. Thankyou
also for your later posting of excerpts
from _Die Schere_ to get things started.

> I think you misunderstood what I said and i hadn't quite properly
> phrased it. What  I meant was that in the Mythos the gods had overcome
> the titans, and from that perspective both E.J. and Myself expect the
> same to happen again. (By the way I do not believe that EJ or Heidegger
> are Pantheistic. What the us of word like the gods is a representative
> phrase for the Divine. When we look at the their writings they quite
> clearly point to a unified view of the Divine and God. I bleieve the use
> of such terms are to access the deeper sense of history of the earth. Is
> Metahistory correct here? Certainly it is a direct correlation of
> Erdgeshcichte and Erdgeist.)

Possibly but Erdgeschichte und Erdgeist
would have to be analysed together with
Erdvergeistigung. EJ has said: "Das Ziel
der Technik is Erdvergeistigung" and I
have problems, I gladly admit, to understand
what is meant.
 



> > > This is of course presupposing that there is no divinity.

Not necessarily.


> You've read the book no doubt? Does he consider the "gods" openly? I
> mean is man the actor here or is it fate, (Schicksal, which by the way
> plays a great role in EJ.) that is at work here. I know that Jünger's
> view is that all of this matter is the coming to light or disclosure of
> Being/Erdgeist/Erdgeschichte.

No I have only read excerpts and reviews,
so I have to abstain from commenting on
what you write above. But don't forget
Erdvergeistigung.

> But in the end it all remains simulation, even if they take on a "life
> of their own" they will never have a soul, that is as humans and animals
> have been given them. Their beings would simply be creations of mankind,
> which in the end means that we are the ends and means, but I don't think
> few "healthy" people would be willing to make this claim.

You are of course correct here and I think
it may be here that Warwick fails. Will
return on this subject when I have a
copy of the book. Will also return on
the subject of nanotechnology.

> I would certainly agree, what is your interpetation of the "neue
> Erscheinung" which we are waiting for. Is this the new appearance of the
> divine after two hundred plus years of Nihilism?

Would you please elaborate on
"neue Ersheinung".
 
> Thanks for your commentaries gives the old brain a work out.
> By the way I am in for "Die Schere" myself, but we have a lot of votes
> for "Eumeswil" as well.

Likewise thanks. Will try to comment
on the excerpts you have put on the 
list from _Die Schere_.

Best greetings

Bertil Haggman