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mailing list archive - Re: The Anarch

Hello all,

Thomas Friese wrote:
> I risk deviating into another topic here, yet it is relevant. The anti-Titanic slant of the
> recent discussion on the list troubles me in some sense. What if the anarch discovers his fate
> is to live in a wholly Titanic world? This is not theoretical, especially in the New World.The
> individual discovers he has titanic powers and responsibilities - alla Friedrich Baroh. He is
> an anarch cast into a titanic role.

And that is, I think, a large part of his problem.  Aladdin was given
immense power, and wasted it on trivial things.  This is, in a nutshell,
titanism.  Baroh problem came to a sort of closure in the end with the
coming of Phares, who I certainly do not see in any way as a titanic
entity.

> A tough position. An inescapable destiny. Dangerously
> seductive. But not all negative. Bruno is titanically inclined and yet one of Manuel's
> teachers. No where in Eumeswil does Manuel ever express any more than a preference for the
> forest over the underworld, even as he keeps his goals beyond both.

A preference for the Forest, but an understanding that both are
necessary.  In mythology, the Titans really aren't ever destroyed, they
instead are bound, controlled.  Prometheus on the rock, for instance. 
The problem with our present situation, the near future that Juenger was
not optimistic about, is not that there are Titanic influences, it is
that these influences are out of balance.

> The Titanic is our
> situation, and, if Junger's prognoses are accurate we can forget about the gods for a century
> or two. No sentimental longing will bring them back for us. Here we are. In my opinion, we
> should look at what the advantages of the Titanic world are and exploit them to the maximum
> while retaining our inner distance. Even if our fate is unavoidably tragic.
> 

I don't think that means we must embrace the Titanic.  I personnally
would be incapable of doing so.  The lack of the influence of the divine
in our world does not mean we forget about the gods either, it just
means, I think, that we need to wait it out, while keeping that anarchic
inner distance, and remaining true to ourselves.

> Prometheus and Dionysus: titans and benefactors of Man, bringers of culture. At a certain point
> Man recreates the gods in his art works - the titans give birth to the gods. Man is the Titan,
> we are Titans. Or not? I honestly don't know. Feedback?
> 

I don't think we are the Titans, nor do I think we are the gods, I
instead think we partake in titanic or divine influences in differing
amounts.  

GERD
 "Today, solutions are really white lies, for they do not belong within
the framework of our times: perfection is not their task.  The approach
can only be gradual.  Aladdin's problem was power with its delights and
dangers; yet it seemed to me that Phares had nothing in common with the
genie of the lamp.  It makes a difference whether demons or messengers
knock at the door"
from _Aladdin's Problem_ p.124, Neugroschel trans.




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