RE: Another _Die Schere_ Contribution

[Roberto Calvo Macias <rcalvom@ctv.es>]

-----Mensaje original-----
De:	J Barahona Ruiz 
Enviado el:	sábado 21 de febrero de 1998 15:42
Para:	ernst-juenger-l@maillist.ox.ac.uk
Asunto:	Re: Another _Die Schere_ Contribution



On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Bertil Haggman wrote:

> Adalbarr, Gary and others. Thanks
> for getting the reading of _Die Schere_
> under way. For my first contribution I
> have chosen
> 
> 53 (p.40-41)
> 
> Die ausserordentlichen Veraenderungen, die uns
> das 20. Jahrhundert eingetragen hat, gruenden
> sich auf die geistige und mechanische Vorarbeit
> von Professoren und Technikern des vorangegangenen
> Saeculums - Professoren wie Roentgen, Technikern
> wie Lilienthal. In seinen letzten Jahrzehnten, von
> 1880 an, haben sie weithintragende Leistungen
> akkumuliert. Das deutet auf einen wachsenden
> Expansionsdruck hin, auf Gewitter sogar. Fuer das
> 21. Jahrhundert, dass schon Nietzsche als seine
> geistige Heimat betrachtete, kuenden sich neue
> Ueberraschungen an.
> 
> In Nietzsches Sicht war die Moral seit der
> Renaissance hinter der Entwicklung zurueck-
> geblieben; eine Umwertung war notwendig.
> Heut scheint es eher, dass die Entwicklung gebremst
> werden muesste - nur fragt sich, ob das, waehrend
> die Raeder zu gluehen beginnen, noch moeglich ist.
> 
> Immerhin werden der Forschung eine Reihe von
> Tabus auferlegt - jetzt nicht nur von der 
> inzwischen zahm gewordenen Kirche, sondern
> auch vom Allgemeinbewusstsein under der Justiz.
> Eine der Konsequenzen ist die Abzweigung eines
> neuen Alchimistentums. Wer weiss, was heute in
> Kellern und auf Boeden, in Urwaelden unter auch
> unter dem Mantel offizieller Laboratorien gebraut
> und gebastelt wird ? Vermutlich sind sie dort schon
> weiter, als man zu ahnen wagt.
> 
> Commentary:
> 
> It is interesting to note EJ mention a few
> German pioneering scientists. And we are
> indeed in for a storm of the technical
> development during the 21 century. Pity
> EJ could not have experienced at least
> the year 2000. The references to Nietzsche
> are indeed valuable. For instance from the
> underlining in the unpublished works of
> Nietzsche: Signs of the next century
> (the 20th) "1) Das eintreten der Russen in
> die Cultur...2) die Socialisten...Wildheit
> und Kraftverjuengung...folglich sehr viel
> Narrheit." Friedrich Nietzsche, _Weisheit
> fuer Uebermorgen_ (dtv klassik 1994, p. 123-124)
> 
> Or "What I tell you is the history of the
> next two centuries." (my translation, for more
> see the work mentioned above, pp. 275-276).
> 
> Can we stop the burning wheels against the
> the tracks? 
> 
> What is brewing in the cellars and laboratories ?
> What can we for instance expect from nanotechnology.
> 
> Molecular manufacturing will be able to make
> almost anything with little labor, land, or
> maintenance, with high productivity, and
> with modest requirements for materials and
> energy. Its products will themselves be
> extremely productive, as energy producers,
> as materials collectors, and as manufacturing
> equipment.
> 
> Products can be made for the price of raw
> materials alone. Products will be 80 percent
> stronger and more duarble. Solar cells will
> be efficient and cheap.
> 
> Miniscule devices smaller than red blood cells
> can cruise the bloodstreams fighting infections
> and destroying them.
> 
> Pocket computers could become commonplace with
> millions of times the capacity of the super-
> computers of today. 
> 
> Communications capacity could be had with
> incredible datacables loaded with software
> that 'knows' how to transmit data reliably.
> 
> Plants can be produced with molecular
> manufacturing. Nanomachines can eliminate pests
> and automate the growing process.
> 
> Tunnels could be bored and made more cheaply than
> roads. Energy would be very cheap and not
> fossile-based.
> 
> But there are risks. A ministate could be a
> superpower by designing nanomachines that threatens
> everyone else.
> 
> Experts say nanotechnology will work just
> after the millenium.
> 
> Sounds good but nanotechnology could also
> be used for evil purposes and machines
> could be hard to detect. Think of Saddam
> with nanomachines.

  Bertil, I think of Saddam, and I think of the nuclear weapons of USA,
France, Israel, China, India, Ucrania, Russia and so others. I think
the problems with technology start when it is controlled by Power and
its followers, no by a community of autonomous people, and serving the
interests of Power, and not the necessities of these people. In our age
this is supported by the `titanic` idea that it's the fate of humanity,
seen as a whole, to conquer nature and to become new rulers of it. 
Science and technology have become the new religion and metaphysics, and
the new god to pray, obbey,and sacrifice for is Power. Little power of
cruel dictator Saddam doesn't want to submit to the big one of the `new
world order`.       
[Roberto Calvo Macias]   I think progress is inside human nature. Other thing would be What kind of progress its more human. Before say that we must agree nihilism its an inferior side of power. 

 
> Sounds like EJs warnings could be correct.
> Can we trust the nano technology 
> scientists ? Or scientists in general?
 
 I've been reading very interested some of the letters by Einstein and
Max Born. Last one was very concerned about the responsability of
scientists in their discoveries and the use they could have. I think
while States and Economy are over the decissions of people and most of
scientists continue serving their interests (as it was not in times of
Galileo and Servet, when scientists oppossed the power of Church), the
only solution is not to trust them completely, at least to do our best
to not let them doing all they want. Anyways, it's time for the anarch  
to observe, to listen carefully, to keep the distance and to decide how
to write the most beautifully as possible his autobiography in these
circumstances.  
     [Roberto Calvo Macias]   Nothing to add. Only an aclaration: States an Econmy are not like beast wich have its own life, or are they? What does the members think of this? 
      Greetings to all,

               Jorge


 Roberto, si realmente te interesa el libro de Warwick puedo tratar de
encontrarlo. Estoy estudiando en Inglaterra y volvere a Madrid
sobre el 20 de Marzo. Si no vives muy lejos (o te apetece gastar un poco
mas en correo), dame un toque a ver que puedo hacer. Un saludo. 
[Roberto Calvo Macias]   Si me interesa, pero vamos tampoco hace falta, que te molestes. Si no te causa muchos problemas pues adelnate. Vivo en Reina Victoria, y mi numero de tlf: 5535101. O sea que si lo traes me pegas un toque y yo lo voy a recoger donde me digas. Y te lo pago, claro esta. De cualquier forma, mucha gracias por adelantado. Por donde andas? Yo estuve en Cambridge, pero aprendí más italiano que ingles, que pedazo de italianas que había, MAMMA MIA! 






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