Dear Junguerites I am quite agree with you Aldabarr. But now, beyond die linnie, we should try to understand the modern state. We should ask ourselves about its "essence" - and also do that with a planetary eye: in order to not do the same error of "international" worker parties - we have seen asiatic, african workers don´t count for them- , Karl Marx, occidental views of world, etc. We should upbring our eyes trying to understand this chaotic and "accelerato" world we are moving into. In other worlds, we should try to combined - sinergia - the microscopic and macroscopic views - perhaps caoplexity could give us some clues. Only if we can make a picture of such a situation we could arise die linie and begin to do a more beatiful job: not only criticize but also to create. We should try to encounter the narrow path between determinism - read modern "totalitarian" states and hazard - read "totalitarian" anarchy. Such an equilibrium is imposible - is an eidea, but, perhaps, we could approach to it - read: reconduct polemos to human limits, to create agonal spaces. Such concepts as autoorganization, irreversibility, unstable systems, etc can helped us to have a clearer view- here I recomend indeed Ilya Prygogine´s The New Alliance. We need to cordinate human laws and limits with the vaste forces tecnology and science manage. Also we must reserch history, literature, poetry and myths to describe the highest human valours, in short: to philosophycally found the singular person in this unstable "strange days". If we don´t put our own limits - and this goes also for that supermen of genetic mob-, Nature will do it. This is myth´s lesson. Best regards roberto
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