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This brings with it the question of EJ's own belief in which he is
laying out the potential for a super sensory order. Certianly if there
is a view to the future then there must be some sort of map by which we
may gain access. This means that fate is in this sense "written" and
although I know little of Schopenhauer's Philosophy and have never heard
of Grillparzer their view of predestination must be similiar to EJ's own
view. The reason for second sight being proof of universal necessity
indicates an ordered universe with an "author". This most certainly
implies, naturally only through indication, the presence of the divine.

Yes, but now who is the "author"? Could it not be the person himself,
consciously choosing the life he/she will live, before, as Junger put it
somewhere, they give "existence to Existence"? That is not in contradiction
to your conclusion of the Divine presence. "Divinity must, without a doubt,
be inside us and be recognized as being inside us; otherwise we would have
no concept of gods." Eumeswil

Carlos's previous point (copied below) is along these lines - the dreamer as
divine self-creator. Point well taken, Carlos.

"To my mind his thought about past-future and visions is nearer to
shuŽar - an Amazonas tribe- culture. This tribe has a veri different
conception of time. They think future is in the past. The preview
donŽt imply an absence of free will. It means that our decision was
already taken."

I add a quote referring to dreams from Eumeswil (by far my favorite book, I
confess..)

"It (the mind during a dream) can open its eyes anywhere - in people, in
things, animals or plants; it gives breath to its creatures and makes them
speak; it acts as their prompter. Yet it is astonished by anything they say,
as if its words were intensified by those echoes. 'In a dream we are gods,'
a Greek said, and he was right." Eumeswil

One final thought: these ideas remind me of a charming story quoted in Otto
Rank's "The Trauma of Birth." In certain Gnostic writings, the unborn child
is "dropped" by an angel into the womb of the mother who will bring it into
the life it has chosen for itself. Just before the "drop" enters the womb,
it is shown the entire course of its future life, including the place it
will be buried. As it leaves the womb to be born, the angel strikes it under
its nose and blots out all memory of everything it has seen. This
perspective fits very well with what Junger is saying here - and what Carlos
says - the decision was already taken. The vision reminds us of what we have
forgotten.

Thomas Friese

"I am not a nonbeliever, but a man who demands something worth believing in.
On this point, I am like a bride in her chamber: she listens for the softest
step." Ernst Juenger, Eumeswil


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