Guenter -- first of all, thanks for your extensive remarks on #72 of "Die Schere". Having an interest in both Juenger and Hobbes I would like to comment on them. > »Dabei wird Hobbes' LEVIATHAN anschaulich.« > GULLIVER'S TRAVELS an illustration of LEVIATHAN? No offense, Guenter, but I think your criticism of Juenger way too harsh and I'm afraid I completely disagree with it. Here's why: Juenger wasn't the first to notice a certain similarity of motives in Swift's "Gulliver's Travels" and Hobbes' "Leviathan". The most detailed analysis of this similarity was provided by John D. Seelye in his excellent essay "Hobbes' 'Leviathan' and the Giantism complex in the first book of 'Gulliver's Travels'", published in 1961 in the "Journal of English and Germanic Philology" (Vol. LX, pp.228-239). I quote from pp. 229f.: "Either because of his sympathy with Hobbes' view of mankind, or through admiration for the other man's intricate mind and polished style, or possibly because of a desire to know well his enemy, or perhaps for all these reasons, Swift was very well versed in Hobbes' writings. In 'The Sentiments' ... he was able to quote Hobbes slyly for the purpose of demolishing his main tenet ... 'A Tale of a Tub', 'The Battle of the Books', and 'The Mechanical Operation of the Spirit' are likewise seeded with references to Hobbes, in particular his 'Leviathan'; it is therefore no real surprise to learn that there were manuscript notes on Hobbes' great work among Swift's papers in 1742. And since Swift's views on government were consciously, even deliberately antithetical to those of Hobbes, it would seem likely that - as in 'The Sentiments' above - the satirist would draw upon the philosopher elsewhere for purposes of refutation, particularly in the first book of 'Gulliver's Travels', which I have shown above to be largely oriented about the matter of the individual and the state. That this is true may be indicated by the device of giantism; basic to the first book, it seems to point steadfastly in the direction of the monster, LEVIATHAN." On p.231 Seelye juxtaposes the Hobbesian "homo magnus" with the image of Gulliver in Lilliput: "The most curious feature of the emblem is the fact that the visible portion of the giant consists of a vast crowd of tiny people -- a symbolic reference to the human composition of the Leviathan. Swift was well acquainted with this title page: he referred to it specifically in 'The Mechanical Operation of the Spirit', noting that 'It is the Opinion of Choice Virtuosi, that the Brain is only a Crowd of little Animals, but with Teeth and Claws extremely sharp, and therefore, cling together in the Contexture we behold, like the Picture of Hobbes's Leviathan, or like Bees in perpendicular swarm upon a Tree, or like a Carrion corrupted into Vermin, still preserving the Shape and Figure of the Mother Animal.' Abstracted from context, this becomes a clever satire on Hobbes' statement that the lives of warring mankind are 'nasty, brutish, and short' (III, 110-16), on his theory that the purpose of government is to protect these man-beasts from their own animal passions (III, 157-58), and on his allusion to the numbering of ants and bees among 'political creatures' by Aristotle (III, 156). Furthermore, this allegory in miniature serves to connect the emblem of the Leviathan with the symbolic presentation of Gulliver, who, when tied down by the Lilliputians, is covered with a swarm of pygmies in much the same manner as Hobbes' giant." And so on in great detail for eight more pages -- I can send you Seelye's essay if you're interested. I'd also like to draw your attention to Juenger's clever use of the word "anschaulich". I think "anschaulich werden" means more than just "to illustrate". It's one of those ambiguous words and expressions that Juenger was so fond of and used with such mastery. "Anschaulich werden" could among others also mean that a point about the meaning of a symbol gets made by playing around with it or turning it on its head -- which is what Swift did with the Hobbesian "homo magnus" in "Gulliver's Travels". Btw, I also see an - albeit remote - connection between Hobbes' "Leviathan" and Juenger's "Der Arbeiter" as both books put forth visions of cybernetic organisms (man/machine hybrids). Hobbes in his introduction to "Leviathan": "For by Art is created that great LEVIATHAN called a COMMON-WEALTH, or STATE (in Latin CIVITAS) which is but an Artificiall Man ..." Bests, Richard Brem - - - - - - - - - - - - "We're the poison in the human machine" -- Sex Pistols "God Save the Queen"
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