[Juenger-list] Re: Der gordische Knoten

[thingyding@inwind.it (martin krueger)]

At 12.51 05/04/02 +0200, you wrote:
>m,
>
>Thank you for your comments on _Der gordische Knoten_.
>It can still be read, as you are pointing out, with great
>benefit, although published in the 1960s.
>
>Personally I think global civil war (Weltbuergerkrieg) is
>a term more relevant at present than oriental-occidental
>conflict.

I think this term fits better with the past, because conflicts have become 
less ideologic in a strict sense. Yet the term is not obsolete at all. 
Firstly it is the common denominator of several aspects. Secondly it is 
exactly what I call the south-north component. In the gulf war you could 
see the three patterns, I mentioned in the last e-mail, very well. The 
west-east component becoming weak with a weaker East... the 
oriental-occidental component emerging: the south-north aspect as the form 
of the oriental-occidental conflict. Even in the Kosovoconflict there are 
these three components with a different assessment. Read Juenger's listing 
of how many ways we can define Europe in Der gordische Knoten, and you will 
understand what I mean with this splitting of WBK into aspects.
If there is something for which Juengers point of view is higly relevant, 
it is geopolitics.
Excuse me, but I really do not have time to write something useful no.

m


>"Auf die Zerstoerung Jerusalems durch einen westlichen
>Caesar folgte die Eroberung Roms von Osten her...". (p. 488)
>
>Shouldn't that rather be "from the north" concerning Rome?
>
>On the other hand: "Sie stehen wie fremde Goetterbilder auf den
>Huegeln, vor ihren Zelten, im eroberten Palast. Die grossen
>Braende dampfen ihnen als Opferfeuer ... verkuenden die Geburt,
>den Anbruch ihrer Macht. Die Fuehrer gleichen nicht Alexander,
>dem Vorbild westlicher Fuersten und Feldherren. Sie sehen wie
>Dschingis-Khan ihren Ruhm und ihre Staerke darin 'niemals milde
>zu sein.' " (p. 392)
>
>With best Juengerian wishes
>
>Bertil
>
> > "Der Gordische Knoten" is a higly enlighting book.
> > Mainly one should distinguish east-west (Russia-America) from
> > oriental-occidental (Asia-West), keeping in mind several overlappings
> > (which Juenger is offering a list of). Consider also that the
> > oriental-occidental conflict has a strong south-north character. This book
> > describes some details of the conditions in which is going on a transition
> > to what in Der Weltstaat is fresco-like described as a situation we are
> > trending to.