This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C6_01C1DCA7.9FE94A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is always a problem with this on lists. I agree there are other = forums for contemporary issues, yet if something elicits a response, I think we = are responsible to deal with it: amongst each other and in relation to the = world we live in. Our common interest is Juenger, but what each of us sees in = his work is, and must be different -why hide these differences (which have little to do with EJ), when we can learn so much about ourselves, each = other and the world we live in. In this sense, I see this list primarily as a forum of open-mindedness, invoking Juenger's spirit. Otherwise, there is = a danger in our efforts becoming philatelic. Yours, Rastko ----- Original Message ----- From: Bertil Haggman <mvk575b@tninet.se> To: Richard Brem <e-ensign@thing.net> Cc: <juenger-list@juenger.org> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 7:49 AM Subject: [Juenger-list] The Eagle Has Landed Personally I think it has all to do with EJs views especially in relation to recent postings and Johns reply. I don't think Vienna is deciding what should or should not be published on this list. Further more there might be some fruitful discussions resulting fom Professor Kennedy's views based on such works by EJ as _Gordische Knoten_ und _Weltstaat_. I would like to start with: "Es ist eine alte Streitfrage, ob die despotischen Verfassungen urspruenglicher sind als die freien, wiw viele annehmen. Auch Spengler vetritt diese Meinung; er glaubt, dass die Sprache sich aus einfachen Imperativen wie 'tu das' und 'lass jenes' entwickelt hat. (p. 402). From _Der gordische Knoten_. Juenger wishes from Scania Bertil Let's keep our postings on topic, i.e. let's always make a direct = reference to either Juenger's life or his books or an aspect in his philosophy. I don't think America's role in the world or other similarly "loaded" = issues should be discussed here, at least not without explicit reference to Juenger -- there are so many other forums to do that. As someone who's been on the Juenger list from day one I can only say = that discussing politics just doesn't do this list any good. We've been = through our flame wars during the Kosovo war and I personally wouldn't want to = see that happening again. _______________________________________________ Juenger-list mailing list Juenger-list@juenger.org http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/juenger-list ------=_NextPart_000_00C6_01C1DCA7.9FE94A80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>There is always a problem with this = on lists. I=20 agree there are other forums<BR>for contemporary issues, yet if = something=20 elicits a response, I think we are<BR>responsible to deal with it: = amongst each=20 other and in relation to the world<BR>we live in. Our common interest is = Juenger, but what each of us sees in his<BR>work is, and must be = different -why=20 hide these differences (which have<BR>little to do with EJ), when we can = learn=20 so much about ourselves, each other<BR>and the world we live in. In this = sense,=20 I see this list primarily as a<BR>forum of open-mindedness, invoking = Juenger's=20 spirit. Otherwise, there is a<BR>danger in our efforts becoming=20 philatelic.<BR><BR>Yours,<BR>Rastko<BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original = Message=20 -----<BR>From: Bertil Haggman <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:mvk575b@tninet.se";>mvk575b@tninet.se</A>><BR>To: = Richard Brem=20 <<A = href=3D"mailto:e-ensign@thing.net";>e-ensign@thing.net</A>><BR>Cc: = <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:juenger-list@juenger.org";>juenger-list@juenger.org</A>>= <BR>Sent:=20 Friday, April 05, 2002 7:49 AM<BR>Subject: [Juenger-list] The Eagle Has=20 Landed<BR><BR><BR>Personally I think it has all to do with EJs=20 views<BR>especially in relation to recent postings and<BR>Johns = reply.<BR><BR>I=20 don't think Vienna is deciding what should or should<BR>not be published = on this=20 list.<BR><BR>Further more there might be some fruitful = discussions<BR>resulting=20 fom Professor Kennedy's views based on<BR>such works by EJ as _Gordische = Knoten_=20 und _Weltstaat_.<BR><BR>I would like to start with:<BR><BR>"Es ist eine = alte=20 Streitfrage, ob die despotischen Verfassungen<BR>urspruenglicher sind = als die=20 freien, wiw viele annehmen. Auch<BR>Spengler vetritt diese Meinung; er = glaubt,=20 dass die Sprache sich<BR>aus einfachen Imperativen wie 'tu das' und = 'lass jenes'=20 entwickelt<BR>hat. (p. 402). From _Der gordische Knoten_.<BR><BR>Juenger = wishes=20 from Scania<BR><BR>Bertil<BR><BR><BR>Let's keep our postings on topic, = i.e.=20 let's always make a direct reference<BR>to either Juenger's life or his = books or=20 an aspect in his philosophy. I<BR>don't think America's role in the = world or=20 other similarly "loaded" issues<BR>should be discussed here, at least = not=20 without explicit reference to<BR>Juenger -- there are so many other = forums to do=20 that.<BR><BR>As someone who's been on the Juenger list from day one I = can only=20 say that<BR>discussing politics just doesn't do this list any good. = We've been=20 through<BR>our flame wars during the Kosovo war and I personally = wouldn't want=20 to see<BR>that happening=20 again.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________= <BR> Juenger-list=20 mailing list<BR><A=20 href=3D"mailto:Juenger-list@juenger.org";>Juenger-list@juenger.org</A><BR>= <A=20 href=3D"http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/juenger-list";>http://www= .pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/juenger-list</A><BR></FONT></DIV></BODY></= HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_00C6_01C1DCA7.9FE94A80--
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