I realise that Kosovo is an emotive issue - let's keep the Juenger perspective if at all possible. Gary's original point was, IMHO, contentious but well made and with a clear reference to Juenger's, itself not exactly uncontentious, strategy of the Waldgang. I personally feel that the Titanism approach may be most productive - were the events in Kosovo and elsewhere signs of Titanism or is the category inadequate? One of the most difficult aspects about the conflict has been trying to reconstruct the motivations of the different parties involved which has shifted over time. Much analysis has been significantly wanting - particularly over the past year. The situation was messy and complex and NATO intervention has certainly changed some parameters but the situation remains messy and complex in other ways. Given which, both sides rely on simplifications which then themselves become factors in the situation - both on the ground and in the wider world in the attempt to shape opinion and change the scope of action. Whilst I certainly do not believe that any of us can attain any form of unshakeable truth concerning the situation as a whole or abstract entirely from our current psycho-socio-historical locations, I do believe that one of the valuable contributions Juenger made was to have provided provocative and highly suggestive ideas through which such situations might be read in a wider perspective. Consequently, if we are as an Ernst Juenger list going to discuss such situations, let us do so with some reference to his ideas - from whatever period. Best wishes, JK ============================================================================== John King St. John's College GB - Oxford OX1 3JP ==============================================================================
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