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>- Certainly has nothing to do with liberalism and modernity !!!
>I share clasical philosphy view on this respect!! (you can check Aristotle,
>politics and if you have time enough you can try Leo Strauss)


I was asking for your definition.

>- Je,je, je,je ( I can only laugh sorry....je,je)
>Do you have any idea of what Davos, Round Table,  Bilderberg or Trilateral
>Comission are?


So there is a secret world government that
calls the shots?

>- Totalitarianism has to do with power and destruction and today power and
>destruction means NATO and Civilization ( I prefer to be a barbarian
>latinamerican rather than a civilized european)
>Junger viewed power not as you see (civilized) but as the way to overcome
>civilization and bourgeois way of life which by the way is what you value!!


Well, there are many interpretations
of EJ. Let me offer a few quotes from
_Auf den Marmorklippen_. I cannot
help thinking of Koeppelsbleek when
I watch the burning houses in Kosova,
the terrified Albanians and the mass-
graves:

"Die Feuer, die Koeppelsbleek erhellten,
waren noch gluehend, dock wie mit
Silberkuppen von einer weissen Aschenschicht 
bedeckt. Ihr Schimmer fiel auf die Schinder-
huette, die weit geoeffnet stand, und faerbte
den Schaedel, der am Giebel glaenzte, mit
rotem Licht. Aus Spuren, die sowohl den Boden
um die Feuerstaetten als auch das Ineere
der ueblen Hoehle zeichneten und die
ich nicht schildern will, war zu erraten,
dass die Lemuren hier eines ihrer 
schauerlichen Feste abgehalten hatten,
dessen Nachglanz noch auf dem Orte lag.
Wir Menschen blicken mit angehaltenem
Atem und wie durch Spalten auf solchen Spuk."
(p. 119, _Auf den Marmorklippen_, 15th edition,
1980, seperate from Collected Works).

Köppelsbleek = Kosova
Schinderhuette=the massacre sites of the Serbs
Lemuren=Yugoslav army, Ministry of
Interior Police, paramilitary gangster bands
led by figures like Arkan (wanted for several
bank robberies in Sweden) and others.


>Why those well trained soldiers cannot do anything to the russian soldiers
>who are still in the airport?


Now, my South American friend, that is
high politics. We don't want to offend the
Russians, do we? We need to cooperate
with them in the future. My own personal
view is that a tougher attitude is called
for now. Refuse water and electricity
deliveries. Stop all food deliveries and
the 200 Russian soldiers would soon 
prefer to have remained in Bosnia,
where they belong.

>- As far as i know Cuba is becoming a sort of lovely place for all the
>europeans who want to have sex without paying too much!!
>I ask you again, what about all the scholars and intellectuals who are
>horrified by  Nato butchery? Are they cubans, or koreans? Common Sense also
>says that there is nothing to be proud of  fighting  a war without taking
>any risk and i think that Nato soldiers are just a bunch of cowards!!


Well, it is always more prudent to fight
without losses. Milosevic wouldn't care
about lives so to him soldiers, police,
paramilitaries are can be sacrificed at
free will along with the people.

>- I think that is easy to criticize when you are confortable in a bourgois
>place not disturbed but the uglyness of irrationalism and barbarianism but
>MIlosevic showed something europeans unfortunately have already forgotten...


Milosevic is just a former communist
dictator who has not understood that
his time is out.

"Ugly irrationalism and barbarism", a good description
of Serb activities in Kosova.

With antitotalitarian Juengerian greetings and with
a hope that _Auf den Marmorklippen_ will be
taken into account when applying EJ to the
present situation in Kosova.

Bertil Haggman



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