Re: [ejlist] RE: [ejlist] Kosovo & Jünger

[Andreas Heidelbauer <andreas.heidelbauer@student.uni-tuebingen.de>]

Excuse me, you are not at all a National-Bolchevique, rather a fascist!

On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Eduardo Hernando Nieto wrote:

> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:28:31 -0500
> From: Eduardo Hernando Nieto <asgard@mail.sigloxxi.com.pe>
> Reply-To: ernst-juenger-l@maillist.ox.ac.uk
> To: ernst-juenger-l@maillist.ox.ac.uk
> Subject: [ejlist] RE: [ejlist] Kosovo & Jünger
> 
> 
> >- Democracy is the identity between the sovereign and the subjects (Carl
> >Schmitt) what you call democracy (formal, elective, representative etc) are
> >just Liberalism!!!
> 
> 
> So what is democracy according
> to your definition?
> 
> 
> - Certainly has nothing to do with liberalism and modernity !!!
> I share clasical philosphy view on this respect!! (you can check Aristotle,
> politics and if you have time enough you can try Leo Strauss)
> 
> 
> >Mass graves? Yes of course but why I have to trust an "american" (i mean a
> >political correct) media?
> >Do you know that CNN works with the Pentagono? I can recommend you to read
> 
> 
> No, I did not know of that arrangement.
> Please enlighten me on this cooperation.
> Do CNN and Pentagopn have a written
> agreement on this?
> 
> - Je,je, je,je ( I can only laugh sorry....je,je)
> Do you have any idea of what Davos, Round Table,  Bilderberg or Trilateral
> Comission are?
> 
> 
> >Junger of course would see the same picture and CNN wil not be other thing
> >for him than a Titanic and perverted force that control our minds.
> 
> EJ was always against the techniques used
> by depraved dictators (slaughter, genocide etc).
> He has described these techniques very well
> in _Auf den marmorklippen_.
> 
> - Totalitarianism has to do with power and destruction and today power and
> destruction means NATO and Civilization ( I prefer to be a barbarian
> latinamerican rather than a civilized european)
> Junger viewed power not as you see (civilized) but as the way to overcome
> civilization and bourgeois way of life which by the way is what you value!!
> 
> 
> >- What genocide? Where are the corpes? The only deads i have already seen
> >are these two serbs killed by the germans forces yesterday (they were in a
> >yellow Trabi)
> 
> 
> Read the indictment of Milosevic and
> his co-criminals, and you will see the
> names. The forensic experts will soon
> be available. Foolish thing to attack
> welltrained soldiers. These Serbs
> paid the price.
> 
> Why those well trained soldiers cannot do anything to the russian soldiers
> who are still in the airport?
> 
> 
> 
> >- It is easy to label all the people who disagree with the American and
> Nato
> >Totalitarian regime as communist.
> 
> Are you doubting that the PRC, North Korean and Cuban
> leadership are communist? That would be a first one.
> 
> - As far as i know Cuba is becoming a sort of lovely place for all the
> europeans who want to have sex without paying too much!!
> I ask you again, what about all the scholars and intellectuals who are
> horrified by  Nato butchery? Are they cubans, or koreans? Common Sense also
> says that there is nothing to be proud of  fighting  a war without taking
> any risk and i think that Nato soldiers are just a bunch of cowards!!
> 
> 
>   Oky i do not care but I think that all the
> >people that believe in freedom and in a particular freedom ethos (as Junger
> >did)  must notice the great danger we will face in the coming months after
> >Kosovo.. and maybe it would not be a bad idea to read again "Der Arbeiter"
> >perhaps the time is near for his "Herrnschaft und Gestalt"
> 
> 
> The great danger of course being
> rogue dictators like Milosevic, Saddam,
> North Koreans and that old fool Castro
> still clinging to power. But he can still
> cause some problems.
> 
> I am quite amazed that there are people
> out there still willing to defend a dictator
> who lost four wars he started. I hope somebody
> knocks on his door and tells him it is time
> to leave. Hopefully it will be Vuk Drascovich
> and not V. Seselj.
> 
> - I think that is easy to criticize when you are confortable in a bourgois
> place not disturbed but the uglyness of irrationalism and barbarianism but
> MIlosevic showed something europeans unfortunately have already forgotten...
> 
> 
> With Juengeran antitotalitarian greetings
> 
> Bertil Haggman
> 
> 
> With jungerean National - Bolcheviques greetings
> Eduardo
> 
> 
> 
> 
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