SV: [ejlist] _Das Jahrhundert verstehen - Eine universalhistorischeDeutung_

["Bertil Häggman" <bertil.haggman@helsingborg.se>]

>Concerning the term and interpretation of "Weltbuergerkrieg" you should deal 
>with Carl Schmitt more than with Ernst Juenger; Schmitt is much more relevant 
>in his ideas and political thinking than the "poet" Ernst Juenger. It's well 
>known that Schmitt backed the National-Socialist Workers' Party and was quite 
>an opportunist in his behaviour; nevertheless his intellectual attitude and 
>analysis is as important as Karl Marx's "real" work (which is not "marxist" 
>at all btw).


Of course the term world civil war has
a Carl Schmitt dimension too. EJ is
of course no poet. He is highly relevant
in the discourse and attempt to 
to find out what happened in the 20th
century and if one wants to make a
prognosis for both the 21st and
the 22nd centuries.

>I can't find any intellectual profit, nor specific insight, in trying to 
>analyse modern times by reading Ernst Juenger's rather poetically and 
>mythologically grounded essays and prose after "Der Arbeiter"; that's not 
>much help, is it?


Well, I can only express my sympathy
for you, if you are not able to draw
conclusions from EJ's diaries and
pronostical writing. Everybody has
his own agenda. On the importance
of the EJ prognosticism I am in good
company, so your claim of "no intellectual
profit", "no specific insight" has no relevance
for me.

>On the other hand side Ernst Juenger definitely is a poet, (you need not to 
>write poems to act as a poet); actually it is his vague ambiguity as some 
>kind of poetical principle of construction that allows a lot of different 
>interpretations of his works. Its ambiguity includes let's say a certain 
>range of "interfaces" or at least "ports" for data transfer. This 
>input/output potentiality makes Juenger's works "good" in a literary sense.
>With regard to political analysis there's no good to try this in poetical or 
>mythological terms at all (that would be the old-fashioned "German" point of 
>view that led to the "Goetterdaemmerung" in Berlin, finis Germaniae); in 
>politics you need a pragmatic attitude (an old style "British" and nowadays 
>US-American attitude). Juenger should be taken as poet, not as political 
>analyst.


Of course one can use any means available to
analyse the global development. I think
your definition of "politics" is far too limited.

Bertil Haggman