SV: [ejlist] Historical-political analysis and EJ

["Bertil Häggman" <bertil.haggman@helsingborg.se>]

>I've read that book, and Schwarz's essay as well, of course. Schwarz older 
>book dealing with Juenger is quite a good one, no doubt about that. His essay 
>in Schwilk's birthday book for Juenger on the other hand is not convincing at 
>all. To  discuss some of Juenger's prognosises is exactly what I'd like to do 
>here in this (serious, as I hope) mailing list. It's not that I'd like to 
>prove anything to you, I'd like to dicuss these questions of my own, as I 
>have been dealing with Juenger now for long, and I'm trying to evaluate: what 
>is his importance as philosopher, are his prognosises relevant, do they give 
>any new insight, always compared with analysts like Marx, Schmitt, Kondylis, 
>and others.


Well, Mr. van Keuken, I think you
presented some very distinctive views
on the works of EJ in your first comments
on my short review of Diner's latest book.
Then you could not see any politics in the
writings of EJ. Now you want to discuss
the prognoses of EJ and his insights but
you find Professor Schwarz' essay "not
convincing". 

Maybe I missed it but have you participated
before on this list? If not, it might be
interesting if you could kindly present yourself.


>I would be very grateful if you could start with discussing this topic. If 
>you don't like that, if you prefer to go on with your "school" without being 
>disturbed by questions from outside, I'll leave you alone. It's quite 
>interesting for me, because I observed the mailing list members' discussion 
>concerning the NATO bombing in Yugoslavia, which started with Ernst Juenger 
>as reference point, but didn't prove any specific applicability of 
>"Juengerian" insights in this concrete case.


I did in this discussion present the view
that _Auf den Marmorklippen_ was highly
applicable to the situation in Kosovo and
as the houses continue to burn I think
my views stand up very well. The butchers
of the national socialist regime in Berlin show
a great similarity to the Serb butchers
in Kosovo. I am sure the Serb butchery,
which was planned before the bombings of
Yugoslavia started, reflects a racist view
by the Orthodox Serbs toward the ethnic
Albanians in Kosovo. 

I like the irony of using sectors in Kosovo
and don't letting the Russians have a sector
of their own. For decades the Soviets played
the sector game in Berlin, and now the 
Russians must place their troops in different
sectors of the western allies, and there
even is German sector with troops from
the "new" Germany, democratically
totally reliable. I think EJ would have liked
that.

>For my sake let's discuss his models of recognition in a more abstract manner 
>then.


Unfortunately Professor Schwarz' book of the 1960s
had no chance taking the important new books
into account from the 1980s and 1990s. But there were
earlier "political" books. _Der Gordische Knoten_ and
its importance has been analysed by Carl Schmitt in 
"Die geschichtliche Struktur des heutigen Welt-Gegensatzes
von Ost und West." (1955). One can draw conclusions from
this book and evaluate further in the field of Greater Spaces
and the present day development after the collapse of the
Soviet Union in 1991. I am just mentioning this because you
so categorically on this list wrote that EJs writing had no
interest in a geopolitical or historical-philosophical context.
What interest for you could there be to discuss these matters
when you have already decided that EJs works only have
a "poetical" value?

With juengerian greetings

Bertil Haggman