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De:	richard_al 
Enviado el:	sábado 26 de septiembre de 1998 23:35
Para:	ernst-juenger-l@maillist.ox.ac.uk
Asunto:	Die Schere #19

First the interpretation.
19/1  Fundamental research is higher than common life, economy,
institutions.
19/2  The organisation, the management, the society of consummation
which ensues can't satisfy on a long time.
19/3  In this type of society, in this frame, physics is no more than
parable.
[Roberto Calvo Macias]  Such kind of analisys are always destructive, not to say incomplete. 
Having reread Eumeswil "...Rhodes... and so much to do ...", but 
with no more light (Baudrillard, help), it's annoying to put at a same
level physics 
and parable whatever the translation  fable, story, image, allegory, 
saga, odyssey, road movie, tale, legend, myth ... let's the interesting
study of 
all different categories to Mr Caillois.
There is at least one difference. Physics is real, parable no.
When Mr Sagan or Mr Reeves and his folkloric accent he plays with, 
tell us, poor beotians the story of comets and stars, sure they're
right.
They describe reality or 99% of it. 
[Roberto Calvo Macias] You are not talking seriously, aren´t you?
You are mixing tecnology with physics. What is real in Hyperstrings
Theory? Have you seen a electron? Which are the real image of atoms?
What objective machines are being used to "see" that microcosmos?
What exactly is a quark? who tell you c is absolute speed? God?
What exactly means "energy"?
Its not the point Quantum Mechanics work, all theories have been
a certain aproacch to reality. But who tell you there is no more
approached systems?
EJ is talking about thought systems, those are  religions.
They are only one posibility between millions, they are only
thought systems. And history tell us that always one substitute
the latter... And nobody feel embarrased. 
King Arthur can move either in Camelot England or in Broceliande 
Brittany. Lazare can resurrect. No real frame. This carries hope. La
santa fé 
mueve las sierras. Now just a quick digression. Perhaps the reason why
Baudrillard in theory, with his concept of "simulacra", and Bourdieu in
the reality, with his
books *, attack the radioTV medias, is that they roughly mix reality and
legend. When the TV guy is standing near the shroud, or in front of
the White House, the good catho MUST believe the shroud was that of
Jesus 
20 centuries ago. No comment about the White House.
In the computer technique, there is the wysiwig**. The TV reality
becomes immediately legend. The same for the police series. Happy
birthday to you, Mr Derrick for the guinness record of 300 episodes
unfortunately unknown in US and Can
cause too "slow", and car is a diesel. The cult series are based on very
bad reality, glauquitude (scuse the neologism), and become mythical.
Near this, traditional myths are not heavy, even the little red riding
hood.
[Roberto Calvo Macias]  You have touched one of the crux of this Tyme. I would like to hear more comentaries about this. 
In fact, its the introduction of methodic dude even in sense frame. There is no more security in senses. EJ, from memory: when these things get the third dimension things will be worrying. A new kind of solipism.
We are penetrating into a major space, vaste and infinitive, as it has to be in a faustic age: Virtual reality. Now, as ever, we had to worlds: virtual and reality, facts and imagination.    To differ them: the recipe is old.

Best wishes
roberto  
Some news from the pm front.
A new pm novelist, next justified price winner, Houellebecq with a title
worthy of 
Friedrich Georg : The elementary particles. Ed Flammarion

* Bourdieu  About journalists and television.   Ed Liber
  Halimi        The new guard dogs    		Ed Liber
** wysiwig    what you see is what you get





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