Re: Die Schere #19

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> >A BROWN >In other words the language you use is based
> >on the battle of the titans and the gods to use a Juengerian metaphor.
> >ROBERTO CALVO MACIAS   >You are mixing technology with physics.
> 
>  Einstein writing his second letter to USpres in 45 to stop the process
> - the first in 40 is to initiate and accelerate the nuclear bomb -
> considers himself as mainly responsible for the works. For many years
> now, there is the concept of techno-science. EJ brings us an other point
> of view. Thank's to him we have a new approach. Certainly this global
> metaphor suits to me (and others I suppose) well, my position is based
> on it and I include in titans both Physics, technique, management,
> finance, economy, consummation. I'm not so much post modernist cause the
> reputation of spanish inn, but Baud offers an other way too. In this
> moment, it's EJ I support but face to titans, ready to ally with the
> devil. Just a little problem, if the devil is here, means that gods yet
> came back.
> 
> Greetings
> richard

But here the issue is not a new point of view at all, rather a view to
understanding what has happend. See Einstein’s views on religion and
science, or Goethe’s for that matter. These men, like EJ, have a firm
belief in the divine, and I think that is the point here that is worth
looking at. “Skepsis” with regards to myth and religion have to pass.
Being skeptical is a part of the Enlightenment which in turn made the
advent of the Titans once again possible. So as EJ says in the opening
of Prognosen “Einer, der (jetzt oder schon wieder) von Goettern redet,
macht sich damit nicht mehr so ganz indiskutabel wie waehrend der ersten
Haelfte unseres Jahrhunderts oder bei den Eliten schon seit Voltaire.
Freilich stellen diese zweihundert Jahre einen winzigen Abschnitt dar,
vergleichen mit Zeiten in denen Goetter und Daemonen verehrt wurden.”

Free translation:

“One who (now or once again) speaks of the gods, is not so out of the
question as during the first half of our Century or as with the Elites
since Voltaire.
These two hundred years represent only a minute period, in comparison
with the time that the gods and the demons were honoured.”

So beyond this one must see clearly that for EJ these elements of the
unseen are real, otherwise he would not speak of them. Which is the same
for me. It is a greater reality which has a hard way finding it way into
limited thoughts and words. Therefore the story of Lazarus though not
provable in a Scientific sense has a meaning even beyond hope, it has
its own greater reality as do all stories of this nature. Remember it is
only during the enlightenment and after that the  word myth became
associated with fantasy.

Greetings from Thueringen

Abdalbarr